Instrument List

ID Instrument Maker Model Serial# Manuf. Date Key/Pitch Click on Picture to Enlarge
11051 Trumpet Lidl C
Josef Lidl Brno
10000 Helicon Lidl F
Josef Lidl Brno
8887 Trumpet Lidl
Engraved: Josef Lidl Brno Length: 15 3/4 in Length of tubing 55.5 in Bell: 5 1/4in
8872 French Horn Lidl
Josef Lidl Prag
8835 Helicon Lidl
7823 French Horn Lidl Acustic
Double
7085 Fluglehorn Lidl
6925 French Horn Lidl
Besson marketed Lidl made
6566 French Horn Lidl
6522 Cornet Lidl
6305 Cornet Lidl
5987 Helicon Lidl
5625 Trombone Lidl
5619 French Horn Lidl
Mechanical linkage reversible F / Bb Bore: 11.7mm Bell: 300 mm
5566 Trumpet Lidl Arioso
J. Lidl Brno
5315 Trumpet; Low Lidl Eb
5048 Trumpet; Bass Lidl
4642 Trumpet; Low Lidl Eb
Engraved: Lidl Brno Length: 20 3/4in Length of the tubing: 80.5 in
4619 Trombone Lidl Brilant 1946-60 Bb/F
Strap slide lock. Friction fit Bore .500 Made for military bands (/friction,1R/trad wrap,tuning)
3666 Trumpet; Bass Lidl
Engraved:Lidl Brno Length: 25.5 in length of the tubing: 111 in gsmonks: I own one of these: Lidl used to market it as a bass trumpet. It is in tenor Bb, but not all companies market these horns as bass trumpets. Some refer to this version as a tenor, and refer only to the horn with a trombone-size bell as the bass (possibly also having four valves and being pitched in C). The thing is, I have played a number of "bass trumpets" over the years, and I cannot consider this horn to be a bass trumpet. For one thing, these old Lidls are almost entirely conical. They begin with a conical lead-pipe, they are cylindrical through the tuning section, and then the whole rest of the tubing (about 6 ft 4in) is conical. I have found this with several "bass trumpets", that they are mostly conical. That makes them tenor or baritone cornets in my opinion, and they play like cornets! The tone is dark, the partials close-together, the flexibilities like a greased weasel which is very much unlike a cylindrical instrument. I have played what I consider to be real bass trumpets, and by contrast their tone is crisp, resonant and trumpet-like. They are also cylindrical horns. It is not a tenor horn, guys. The bell is not much bigger than a standard trumpet and the sound is nothing like Bb tenor horns, baritones, euphoniums, etc. These horns are often referred to as tenor trumpets, reserving the bass connotation for the horns with a trombone-size bell that are usually in C and often have four valves. There is a contrabass trumpet that is in a lower key again, F or Eb. Conn and a few other companies used to make an alto cornet in low F or Eb, so calling horns like this tenor cornets would be apt, I think. Again, the alto cornets have a bell the same size as a Bb cornet or only slightly larger. The Eb tenor (alto) horn is also often referred to as an alto cornet, especially in Europe, and many resources do list the Saxhorns as a family of cornets, but this is erronious- Saxhorns are not cornets. They are between cornets and true flugelhorns and are a taxonomic off-shoot of the bugle family (which is another reason why bugles are historically significant, BTW). There sure seems to be an utter lack of standardisation of bass trumpets! Every model I have looked at seems to be different from every other version. Some are almost entirely cylindrical, many are a liberal mix of profiles, and horns like mine are almost entirely conical. The proof of the pudding seems to come out in the high range- the 3rd octave, to be precise. Cylindrical, small-belled horns tend to sound distincly like regular trumpets in that range. My horn sounds like an old-style cornet up there with a big, fat, dark sound. No matter how hard I try for a martial sound, it sounds like I am going to break into the Coronation Street theme.
3180 Helicon Lidl F HP
F HP Bell: 12in : .710
3050 Trumpet Lidl Eb
Eb Engraved: Lidl Brno length 20 3/4in Length of the tubing 79.5 in
2931 French Horn Lidl
2359 Helicon Lidl BBb
4 rotors
2312 French Horn Lidl
Engraved: Josef Lidl Brno
1815 French Horn Lidl
1707 Trombone; Valve Lidl
Engraved: Prvni Josef Lidl Brno bell 10in tubing 100in
1542 Fluglehorn Lidl
garland reads: Josef Lidl Brno Owner did not seem sure, but thought it was in C
1308 Baritone Lidl
1307 Trombone Lidl

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