| An eBay seller contacted me to tell me about this horn he is currently selling and to request any further information we could find on it. So, is there more knowledge out there somewhere?
Langwill lists an A. Turtle but no W. Turtle, so it is speculated that this is a relative, possibly a son.
A. Turtle was a cornet maker in Manchester England.
My speculations:
Since W Turtle and A Turtle are using the same physical address, it probably means one of two things. Either W. was working in As shop, or W. bought As shop. Since there is little information on A. and none on W. I would lean towards the idea that W. was working in As shop.
The dates associated with A. are that he is known to have been at that address in 1894. And, that seems to be the first documented date on him that I have. It is possible he had been making horns before that. And, the last date is 1900, which is also associated with a different address (86 London Rd). Again, it is possible that he flourished longer than that.
But it would seem that A. moved from Ogden St sometime between 1894 and 1900. And, so it would be reasonable to presume that this horn had probably been produced before the turn of the 20th century.
It looks very much the same as the Bessons of the same time period.
Inscribed:
1ST CLASS MAKER W.TURTLE 61. OGDEN ST. ARDWICK MANCHESTER 1325
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