| tooslick: I had sold a Cleveland trumpet and received an email a short time later from a gentleman claiming to be the grandson of the original owner of the Cleveland Musical Instrument Company. He told me that the horn I sold was made by his grandfathers company prior to its being bought out in 1925. He also stated that the original company used the letter c in front of the serial numbers. He said if the engraving reads Made By Cleveland Musical Instr. Co. with no mention of H.N. White it was made prior to 1925. I have no way to verify what the gentleman wrote(or even if he was who he claimed to be) but I thought I would pass his info along.
The H.N. White 1935 catalog shows the same horn with slightly different bell engraving. I guess the bottom line is that I am not really sure when this horn was made!
hornman64: Going back to reply #2 or tooslick on Cleveland Mus. Inst Cos serials as opposed to after the HN White purchase in 25, OldLou and I have been puzzled over the alleged "c" supposed to be on the CMICs horns. We both have American Standard Cornets, his being a bit older than mine. It looks like there is only the HN White serial list extant. Mine still has the Cleveland Musical Instruments co as maker on the bell medallion despite apparently being made after 1930 and before 1935 (ser. 14xxx) long after the sale. This would not coincide with the opinion of the person passing along info to tooslick. I see in the Cleveland Cornet section, a reverse S curve marked c-35191 which is the same design as my pre- WWI Bohemia Concertone cornet and also the trumpet in reply #7.
So, I would conclude White continued to use the CMIC Medallions for quite some years before putting the HN White name in the same spot.
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