Instrument List

ID Instrument Maker Model Serial# Manuf. Date Key/Pitch Click on Picture to Enlarge
6602 Trombone Lyon-Healy Couturier 55085 1923
Engraved: Lyon and Healy/Makers/Chicago/U.S.A/Couturier Model
5419 Cornet Lyon-Healy Couturier 14545
The dual bore at 2nd valve: .458/.462 bell: 4 1/2 in
5088 Fluglehorn Pelisson Couturier
Engraved: Couturier Pelisson Freres Lyon Paris
3436 Euphonium Lyon-Healy Couturier
Pryorphone: From after Lyon & Healy bought out the American Couturier in 1923. They continued to make horns until 1929. It also differs in that the mouthpipe goes directly into the 1st valve without the tuning loop. The valve tubing is still fixed, though.
979 Cornet Holton Couturier 13359 1911
Engraving: COUTURIER MODEL NEW PROPORTION MADE BY FRANCK HOLTON CHICAGO Biber: It seems a little unclear to me as to what distinguished the Clarke model from the plain new proportion model and the couturier model. Was it just bore size? I have seen ads showing Clarke model instruments both with and without shepherds crook. Surely Clarkes customization of the model was more than bore size. Pryorphone: The cornet stayed the same regardless of who was endorsing it (and whos name they put on it). There were times when"New Proportion" model was made with was no endorsing artist: 1907 to some of 1909 and some of 1912 to at least 1918. I know of "Couturier Model" New Proportions with 0, 0-, 0½, and 1 bores, so it would be my assumption that this worked the same way when Clarke endorsed them. From 1918 on, the cornet was known as the "Holton-Clarke Model" I have not tracked anything beyond Chicago, so I can not tell you any more than that. OLDLOU: I have two Holton Clarke Model cornets from about the same era. One is a shepherds crook type, which is appreciably shorter than the other, which is a typical extended cornet design. this just might answer the question per the Holton Clarke or Couturier, or, New Proportion short cornets. One of the major differences that I have noted in these two old horns is that the shepherds crook model will not fit into the original factory case for the non s c design. A minor difference is that the shepherds crook model will accept a modern Bach type cornet mouthpiece shank, whereas, the non s c horn has a much smaller diameter i.d. in the receiver. Biber: as the New Proportion design or its other incarnations (Clarke, Couturier) ever offered as a trumpet or trumpet-shank instrument? the reason I ask is that I just saw a publicity photo of the fortmer child prodigy trumpet soloist Edna White. the photo was easily from the 1940s (eitherway considerably after her switch from cornet to trumpet) and showed her holding what I am almost 100% sure is a Holton-Clarke cornet. Kenton: The Couturier line had a trumpet. Though it is really pushing it to call it a trumpet. i.e. a trumpet is supposed to be cylindrical until it goes into the bell branch. Course, no modern trumpets do fit this description. But the Couturier model took this to an extreme. It took a trumpet shank mouthpiece but was conical throughout. I would be surprised if Clarke endorsed a trumpet. He was very vocal in opposition to the trumpet over the cornet.
225 Cornet Holton Couturier 11208 1910
Another on eBay with serial# 10051
28 Cornet Holton Couturier 11208 1910

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